Liverpoolstoff
På denne siden vil vi legge ut alt vi kommer over av Liverpoolstoff. Tenker da ikkje på nyheter, men gode historier vi har opplevd eller hørt om. Her regnes også humor og morsomme bilder.
Her er en fin link til info om byen Liverpool, hvor vårt æresmedlem Tage Herstad har bidratt i ettertid.
http://www.ba.no/forbruker/fritid/reise/article4261426.ece
Supportertur... (10.05.07)
Fulham Away
The last away game of the season, Fulham, was always gonna be one of those can't really be arsed games, even more so now that we had the small matter of a trip to Greece to prepare for. After numerous drop-outs, "I'm not going"s and other assorted excuses, it was arranged for 5 of us to leave Limey at quarter past nine. Getting there, the price of a train ticket posed the only problem, 60 quid an adult ticket to London, ****in hell what a joke. So kids it was, 30 quid was a bit more affordable I suppose, just got to pretend yer 15 for the day. No problem, so we got to the window looking to buy kids tickets......"No way you're 15, I'm not selling them to yer" Oh **** , no tickets. Now what made it worse was that John1892 and Trigger had already bought tickets the night before, so they got on the 9.15 as planned and the Fulham Five had been seperated. Me, Sickboy and Speke Red were trying to formulate a plan when we see Macca lookin a bit the worse for wear but game for the trip. So the four of us decide that the plan will be, get to Manchester, and get a ticket there and go to London. Sound.
The trip to Manny was relatively incident free, with a sound clippie agreeing to sell us kids tickets, so we paid the 30 quid and it was kids to London. The only problem was, the train stopped at every ******* stop on the way to Manny, so by the time we got there it was nearly 12 oclock. A look at the board in Piccadilly showed no trains to London! What the **** ? Then we realised that was only for the next half hour, so basically, there were trains, just not any time soon. With nothing else to do, it was banner time, and the "Athens The Final 2007" banner was unfurled from the balcony in Piccadilly to the onlooking Man Uted Fans an ironic cheer from the City fans accompanying a snarl and a scurrying off from the United fans.
Finally we found a train to London, estimated time of arrival 20 to 3. So we'd be gettin there late. Ah well, its only Fulham I spose.... A few bottles of Bud on the train and it was happy days, and Macca even managed to position himself in a perfect position to blimp the bird next to us with the incredibly short skirt on. Now don't get me wrong, she weren't great, but for a Manc I spose ya could say she was worth a go, anyway I digress. With Macca blimping this bird and moaning that he was hungry, me, Sickboy and Speke Red wondered aloud why even though we'd been on the train for ****in ages, we could see the old landmark, Walsalls ground, out the window. Now as every travelling fan knows, Walsalls ground is more or less exactly halfway between Liverpool and London, it was 2 oclock and we were only halfway there! Luckily enough, an perhaps magically, the driver put his foot down and we arrived in London Euston at about 20 to 3, so we had 20 minutes to get to Craven Cottage. A text from John 1892 told us it was about half an hour on the tube, and so the tube it was, change at Victoria and then get the train to Wimbledon, getting off at Putney Bridge.
After desperate sales tactics for our spare ticket from Speke Red which consisted of shouting across a crowded tube train full of disinterested foriegners and even more disinterested Cockneys, "anyone want a ticket for the match", one extremely polite, not to mention good looking young lady declined the offer while the rest of the people on the train ignored us. Some fat **** that we hadn't noticed before then started chatting to her, and cuddling her, which killed off our dreams of kidnapping her and forcing her to take our ticket, but never mind. As a side note, how did that fat **** get her? Must of been wedged the *******. Either that or he was a charming, articulate and friendly young fellow whom she had fallen in love with. Probably wedged though.
Fulham Broadway station brought a snigger as we saw Stamford Bridge, but more on that later..............
Off at Putney Bridge, quick run to the ground, we sold the spare to some tourist and at about 3.15 we were in. Its only when you actually get to a game like this that you realise how ***** football can be at times, and a boring game ended 1-0 to Fulham, Fowler missed a first half sitter and Dempsey scored from a similar chance for them, basically they stay up after that barring a miracle, and I for one am glad, I like Fulham, picturesque ground an all that. he only highlights of the match were reuniting with John1892 and Trigger, unfurling the Athens banner, and buzzing off a steward, who we couldn't work out was a man or woman 'cos of her/his bumfluff muzzie, and a bizzie who came out with the shout of "Stay in there" in the most high pitched and horrible voice when one of us dared move slightly into the aisle away from our seat.
Anyway 1-0, never mind I spose, happy for Fulham in a warped way, me personally anyway. The walk back to the tube brought two more additions to the squad, L12 and Youth. so the Fulham Eight were assembled...... Me, Sickboy, L12, Trigger, John 1892, Youth, Macca and Speke Red.
Banner in hand and time to kill, it was decided by the majority we may as well get off at Fulham Broadway and pay the Bridge a visit. Off at Fulham Broadway it was, and the 8 of us took a right and walked for a bit. ****in hell we've gone the wrong way! A quick 180 degree turn and we were on the right track, and there we saw it, the home of the European Cup Semi Finalists 2004, 2005, 2007. A quick scout round produced some great moments, a photo outside a few landmarks, including the "original wall of the Shed End". We took the Shed haha. Well not quite, but a moral victory if nothing else. Loitering around for a while, we found an open turnie, and a couple of us went in, only to find it was for the upper tier exits, so instead of opening onto the pitch, we were met with loads of concrete stairs. Ah well. bunk back out and in the car park ready to go home, when Michael Ballack drives past to much hilarity. Buzzing off him with the banner and singing Liverpool songs it doesn't get much better, take that yer German **** . I suppose hes played in one, but even then he got beat by Real Madrid, so Michael heres ya challenge, show me a European Cup Winners medal, and I'll raise yer a Djimi Traore.
Still all buzzing, what happened next is stuff of legend for the Fulham Eight. In a twist of fate we had previously been oblivious to, Chelsea had been training on the pitch, and obviously Jose, happy with what he had seen, had said, "Lets jib it, hometime". So as 8 delirious Scousers looked on in delight, the shout came out "Speke Red, get the banner back out lad, heres the ****in team coach!!!!" I even pulled out me Jose special dance, fists pumping in a simultaneous homage and ****take of the Portuguese Special One, as the coach went past us all dancing, singing and flaunting our banner.
So, all made up ourselves, we start walking out of the car park, when suddenly, the Chelsea coach stops, and off jumps some fat Portuguese looking fella who we all assumed to be the goalie coach or something, and he beckoned us over. Now what do you say to that? "OK" is what we said, and to be honest I don't know what we were expecting, but what we certainly didn't expect was the fella to say, "Go ahead lads, say it to our faces" I looked up the steps of the coach and at the top was John Terry. "What's happening John lad" was my shout, to which the response was classic, as an angry John Tezza replied "**** off, you Scarse cants". Well that was it, we were howling with laughter, and that laughter was eating away at John and the boys. The goalie coach then started walking towards us menacingly and snatched the banner and threw it on the coach! Dunno what the **** wanted it for, no good to him now is it! Anyway, we were all buzzin by this point singing "We made John Terry cry" and other ditties, when in a mad sidenote to the story, Danielle Lloyd drove past in a boss Rangey, and her brother who is from by ours seen us and said, "alright there boys". Danielle looked a bit bewildered, but then again, shes probably too good for us all now, having said that I've got faith that one day she's gonna return to her roots and come and knock on ours proposing marraige, we can always hope hey. Anyway, we wanted our banner back, so Speke Red went to try and get it, to be met with an angry Steve Clarke saying "if you want the banner, come on this bus and get it" Now Steve Clarke may well have been a ***** player, that much is true, but he looked an angry man, so we weren't getting the banner back, no way, especially when Speke and Youth both got kicks up the arse of the goalie coach for their troubles. Assaulted by a Chelsea employee, if I was one of them two I'd be going the papers haha. To much amusement, the 8 of us regrouped in the street as the coach drove away to the chant of "We made John Terry FIGHT, we made John Terry FIGHT" which I thought was funny, but John Tezza was so angry I think he would have done all 8 of us in by himself. Its amazingly what losing to Liverpool in 3 semis in 3 years can do to a man!
The way back to Euston was an amazed one. So many questions........Why had they stopped? How had 8 scallies annoyed them THAT much? Would Speke Red ever get his banner back? Who was that goalie coach? Was he even a goalie coach or just some fat nugget? Probably both. Why didn't one of us let Terry crack us and get the compo? And why was the England captain so anti-Scouse? Especially when ya consider his ma lets Scousers plate her on a regular basis. Actually, now I come to think of it, thats probably why. That and the fact Liverpool are going to Athens I suppose.
Now I'll be honest, I've never seen 8 lads so hyperactive in me life, we were bouncing round London made up, got to Euston and got a scran which I'm sure Macca was pleased with, the hungry **** . Sickboy had even managed an away trip without spewing, what a day! A quick trip to the offy for the ale for the way home produced a sex shop, but it was ***** , the arl Cockneys don't do it like the Europeans, then again they're not in Europe long enough to pick up the tricks of the trade!
The trip to the offy proved futile and a severe waste of money, as half the Met police force were waiting by the train taking ale off everyone, ***** . So with no ale but a day full of funny anecdotes to talk about, we went back to Libpool, as John Terry might say,
"Good fackin riddance you Scarse cants"
Boring Arsenal... (02.04.07)
"Dissa gule va kjedelig å se på..."
Da hjelper det lite at Peter Crouch scorer 3 mål! 
Reclaim The Kop... (02.01.07)
Supporterne har laget en egen "Kop Charter". Bakgrunnen er bekymring for at særegenskapene ved det å være rød skal bli for strømlinjeformet og forsvinne.
Av Tore Hansen i LFCSCSB
Sjelen i Liverpool Football Club befinner seg på The Kop. Verdens mest berømte fotballtribune har imidlertid sykdomstegn – og en supportergruppering har tatt ansvar, fått med seg den offisielle hjemmesiden, og produsert et eget charter. Over tid har det vært behov for å gjøre noe, men det var hjemmekampen mot Bordeaux i oktober som gjorde utslaget. Franskmennene ble møtt med ”Who are ya?”, ”eas-eh” og ”you’re not singing anymore” da de røde tok føringen. Det var i det hele tatt en flau opplevelse, og IKKE The Liverpool Way. Dette er ikke Soccer AM!
Reclaim The Kop (RTK) ble dannet kort tid etter og vil i løpet av de ti neste ukene komme med konkrete ”bud” som gjengitt under. Fokuset går mot tre forskjellige aspekt: utdanne ”massene”. Finner nye måter å lag liv og stemning på rundt kampene, og jobbe sammen med klubben når det gjelder nye Anfield. Du finner mer stoff om RTK på her.
The Kop Charter
1. First is that we are only custodians. The Kop is a spirit, an attitude, the heart and soul of Liverpool F.C. No-one owns it, but together we are a legion, a force like no other.
2. There is no other. The Kop is a one-off. It’s the cradle of terrace culture, humour, songs - the original 12th Man. The Kop innovates. It has never followed. As Liverpudlians, we should never follow the rest of country’s trends and fancies. Whether that takes the form of lower-league grade chanting, overhead seal-clapping or the wearing of yokel-style headgear, The Kop deserves better.
3. "Liverpool FC exists as a source of pride for its supporters. It has no other purpose." If that is the club's pledge to us, here's ours to the team: "The Kop exists as a bastion of support. We will get behind the team through thick and thin. We will always give them strength."
4. It's the law of nature that fans have favourites. Let's leave the negative stuff in the pubs and schools and wherever else there's debate to be had. Once we set foot inside Anfield, we are Redmen and we have one purpose – to help the team win.
5. Let's get inside the ground earlier. This is all about playing our part in making Anfield special, and providing the backdrop and the inspiration for the team to walk tall. It's also about letting the other team know where they are. When they come out to warm-up, we want our heroes' hearts pumping and the opposition shriveling. Everyone loves a pre-match pint but let's get the Kop rocking too.
6. On 15th April 1989, many thousands of us set off to support our team in the semi final of the F.A Cup. 96 of us never came home again. We will always honour the memory of those who died at Hillsborough. In our respect for them and their families, and in our disdain for the unprincipled and unregulated hacks who scared up a shameful pack of lies out of a desperate human tragedy, we will never purchase or read The Sun newspaper, and we deplore the reading of it by any Liverpool supporter.
7. It is our custom and our privilege as Liverpudlians to welcome supporters from far and wide. We expect all Kopites of all ages, wherever they sit inside the ground, to show similar respect to the city of the team they support. It’s not endearing when visitors don curly-perm wigs and tell locals to “calm down”. It’s not clever to laugh along with away fans who sing tiresome nursery rhymes about car crime. Support Liverpool F.C, and you support Liverpool, too.
8. We always applaud the other team's goalie. But if he should fail to acknowledge that – let him have it!
9. "Liverpool FC Supporters All Over The World." We don’t tolerate racism. Everyone knows LFC, all around the globe. From Nairobi to Nagoya, we have fans, people who love us because we do things 'The Liverpool Way'. We have style, we have honour, we have principles. We are a global force with a local pulse - truly, a club of the people.
10. Our own icon, the symbol that makes The Kop a legend all over the world, is our anthem: You’ll Never Walk Alone. If there is one thing that sets us apart as fans, it’s this pre-match ritual, this war cry, our hymn of triumph, and occasional pain. We’re custodians of the anthem, and we have to maintain it and pass it on to the next generation, in pristine condition. We can never dilute the song, its message and its impact with half-measures and bursts of applause half way through. Let’s respect the anthem and do it proud, sing it slowly and with heartfelt emotion, right to the end, scarves held high. Amen.
Bilder fra Florø... (31.08.06)
Etter at legendene hadde besøkt Ålesund, gikk turen til Florø. På hjemmesiden til arrangørene Tage og Per Øyvind ligger det en god del bilder ute. Sjekk linken: http://www.fotballflora.no/bildegalleri06_1.html
Neste år vil kanskje DU ta turen til Florø?
Kan anbefales!
Hvem sa det...?
LAa-medlem Torstein Kringstad har lagt ut mye fornuftig på Valder IL sitt forum. Vi tok oss den frihet det er å kopiere det til siden vår. Mye fornuftig lesing, mye morsomt. Kos dokke...
1 "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." Bill Shankly
2 "If Everton were playing at the bottom of the garden, I'd pull the curtains." Bill Shankly
3 "The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game." Bill Shankly
4 "A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe that you are the best and then make sure that you are. In my time at Liverpool we always said we had the best two teams in Merseyside, Liverpool and Liverpool reserves." Bill Shankly
5 "If you're in the penalty area and don't know what to do with the ball, put it in the net and we'll discuss the options later." Bob Paisley
6 "Liverpool was made for me and I was made for Liverpool." Bill Shankly
7 "Liverpool without European football is like a banquet without wine." Roy Evans
8 "Mind you, I've been here during the bad times too - one year we came second." Bob Paisley
9 "I hate talking about football. I just do it, you know?" Robbie Fowler
10 "Sometimes I feel I'm hardly wanted in this Liverpool team. If I get two or three saves to make, I've had a busy day." Ray Clemence
11 "Anyone who doesn't learn from Ian Rush needs shooting." Robbie Fowler
12 "Liverpool are magic, Everton are tragic." Emlyn Hughes
13 "I'd kick my own brother if necessary... it's what being a professional footballer is all about." Steve McMahon
14 "It was like playing in a foreign country." Ian Rush on his time with Juventus in Italy
15 "I said to Kevin (Keegan), 'I'll go near post' and he replied, 'No, just go for the ball.'" Tommy Smith
16 "Anybody who plays for me should be a bad loser." Graeme Souness.
17 "It's best being a striker. If you miss five then score the winner, you're a hero. The goalkeeper can play a blinder, then let one in… and he's a villain." Ian Rush
18 "Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present, it was her birthday. Would I have got married in the football season? Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves." Bill Shankly
19 "They compare Steve McManaman to Steve Heighway and he's nothing like him, but I can see why - it's because he's a bit different." Kevin Keegan
20 "Bruce Grobbelaar will play on until he is 40 - and at the top level." Bruce Grobbelaar
21 "He's better than Brian Lara because he's 600 not out. What a guy." Roy Evans on Ian Rush's 600th appearance for Liverpool
22 "Should the aggregate score be level after 90 minutes, extra time will be played." Fulham's matchday programme for the second leg of the Littlewoods Cup tie in 1986-87. Liverpool were 10-0 up from the first leg
23 "There are those who say maybe I should forget about football. Maybe I should forget about breathing." Gerard Houllier
24 "Nobody likes being criticised, particularly by players who will be in Disneyland this summer on their holidays rather than the World Cup in Japan." Phil Thompson responding to criticism from Frank de Boer of Barcelona who said Liverpool were boring
25 "Son, you'll do well here as long as you remember two things. Don't over-eat and don't lose your accent." Bill Shankly to Ian St John
26 "If you are first you are first. If you are second you are nothing." Bill Shankly
27 "Don't worry Alan. At least you'll be able to play close to a great team!" Bill Shankly to Alan Ball after he signed for Everton
28 "Shanks was the father figure but Roger Hunt was something special. It might sound daft but just picking up his sweaty kit gave me satisfaction.” Phil Thompson
29 "As Arnold Schwarzenegger said, 'I'll be back." Gerard Houllier
30 "There is no way the second half can be as entertaining as the first." Alan Hansen during the UEFA Cup Final v Alaves with Liverpool leading 3-1 at half time
31 "We don't have any splits here. The players country is Liverpool Football Club and their language is football." Gerard Houllier
32 "It's there to remind our lads who they're playing for, and to remind the opposition who they're playing against." Bill Shankly about the 'This is Anfield' plaque
33 "Just go out and drop a few hand grenades all over the place son." Bill Shankly to Kevin Keegan
34 "It broke my heart to leave Liverpool." Kenny Dalglish
35 "Ay, here we are with problems at the top of the league." Bill Shankly suggesting to a journalist that Liverpool were in difficulties
36 "Where are you from?" "I'm a Liverpool fan from London." "Well laddie, what's it like to be in heaven?" Bill Shankly to a Liverpool fan
37 "Yes Roger Hunt misses a few, but he gets in the right place to miss them." Bill Shankly to a reporter
38 "With him in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal." Bill Shankly after signing Ron Yeats
39 "Steve Nicol never gives more than 120 per cent." Kevin Keegan
40 "At Liverpool we never accept second best." Kenny Dalglish
41 "Bill was so strong it was unbelievable. You couldn't shake him off the ball. It didn't matter where he was playing, though I suppose his best position was outside-left. He could go round you, or past you, or even straight through you sometimes!" Bob Paisley on Billy Liddell
42 "We will beat them one day, I can promise you that!" Gerard Houllier on Manchester United
43 "If anybody thinks either myself or my team are afraid of Liverpool, they can think again. I believe I've got a team that can go out and do the business against them." Coventry manager John Sillett before a match with Liverpool in 1987. Liverpool won 4-1 with Sillett declaring them champions elect in August.
44 "For me Liverpool can have Everton's title right now! Everton are good but Liverpool are better. They are the best in England – the side we can all learn from." Coventry boss John Sillett on Liverpool's title chances after Kenny Dalglish's new look team's second match of the season. Sillett was to be proved right as the 1987-88 Reds side of course went on to win the league
45 "You can't build a cathedral in a day. A look at the club's history tells you these things take time." Gerard Houllier
46. Barnes did what we expected him to do. He made a goal, scored one, and entertained. You remember that." Kenny Dalglish after John Barnes Anfield debut for Liverpool in a 2-0 win over Oxford in 1987
46 "He couldn't play anyway. I only wanted him for the reserve team!" Bill Shankly upon hearing Celtic's Lou Macari had snubbed Liverpool in favour of a move to Manchester United."
47 "Laddie, I never drop players, I only make changes." Bill Shankly to a journalist who criticised his team selection
48 "I don't believe everything Bill tells me about his players. Had they been that good, they'd not only have won the European Cup but the Ryder Cup, the Boat Race and even the Grand National!" Celtic manager Jock Stein on Bill Shankly
49 "We’ve got a lot of Cockneys in the team, but really, it doesn’t matter where they’re from – we’re all playing for Liverpool.” Robbie Fowler
50 "It's great grass at Anfield, professional grass!" Bill Shankly comparing the Anfield pitch to other grounds
51 "I owe Bob more than I owe anybody else in the game. There will never be another like him." Kenny Dalglish on Bob Paisley
52 "I go by records and Bob Paisley is the No 1 manager ever!" Alan Hansen.
53 "Liverpool wouldn't be the club it is today without Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley and the players who played there. When I first went there it was a typical Second Division ground and look at it now!" Ian Callaghan
54 "If Shankly was the Anfield foreman, Paisley was the brickie, ready to build an empire with his own hands." Tommy Smith
55 "I was Bob's first signing. He changed my life, as he did so many others. He gave us great memories and you can't put a price on that. He made me an adopted scouser." Phil Neal
56 "Bob's knowledge of players and the game in general is unsurpassed. Football has known no equal in management or prize-winning, but his modesty and dignity were overwhelming as he led this club from one triumph to another. His name will always be synonymous with Liverpool." Liverpool chairman David Moores on Bob Paisley
57 "Hold on a minute, John Wayne hasn't arrived yet." Bill Shankly to the awaiting TV crews and journalists for the press conference to announce he was retiring from football
58 "Liverpool had such a marvellous group of players. It was no surprise the trophies kept coming." Kenny Dalglish
59 "I may have left Liverpool but the city and club will always be part of me." Kenny Dalglish
60 "If Liverpool had waited until the summer, and then asked me to go back as manager, I would have gone back." Kenny Dalglish, having had time to reflect on standing down as Liverpool manager in 199
61 "He was the greatest person I know." Ron Yeats on Bill Shankly
62 "I always carry a picture of him, he comes into my conversation a lot; I learned a lot from him and owe the man a great deal." Kevin Keegan on Shankly
63 "The difference between Everton and the Queen Mary is that Everton carry more passengers!" Bill Shankly
64 On awaiting Everton's arrival for a derby game at Anfield, Bill Shankly gave a box of toilet rolls to the doorman and said: "Give them these when they arrive – they'll need them!"
65 "If Shankly had been paid overtime, he'd have been a millionaire." Tommy Docherty on Bill Shankly
66 "He's better than Platini, certainly better than Rumminegge and Maradona. For me he is the greatest footballer in the world." Graeme Souness on Kenny Dalglish
67 "I used to stand on the Kop when I was here in 1969. The atmosphere and passion on the pitch as well as the terraces was intoxicating and Liverpool became part of me from that day on." Gerard Houllier
68 "Our job is to make the fans happy. When we win, 45,000 people go home happy. When we lose, it not only affects them, it affects their cats." Gerard Houllier
69 "We don't destroy our heroes today when we worshipped them yesterday." Gerard Houllier.
70 'The only pleasure I take is that the fans are happy with the team. But I don’t believe in anything other than my team." Gerard Houllier.
71 "I notice a former captain of ours said recently that this squad is so good that we don’t need a manager. I took this as a great compliment. He must have changed his mind since leaving as he said at the time that Phil Thompson and I would drag the club down. On that point I suppose he was right - we dragged the club down to Cardiff three times in the last 10 months." Gerard Houllier referring to comments made by Paul Ince
72 “We scored 127 goals - the third highest total in the club's history. Although, if you believe everything you read in the papers, 126 probably came from a breakaway from the edge of our penalty area. The other one was probably an own goal.” Gerard Houllier
73 "Liverpool players must play like a lion, give his all. There must be determination, commitment and resolve to be a Liverpool player." Gerard Houllier
74 "These players are my true heroes." Gerard Houllier
75 "Players have responsibilities, because, whether they like it or not, they are public figures. They have to be aware that the people who come to the ground spend fortunes in relation to what they earn." Gerard Houllier
76 "When I see the Bill Shankly statue, I look at the sentiment on the base. It says: 'He made the people happy’. Well now the modern Liverpool is making the fans and the city happy. And that makes me so proud." Gerard Houllier
77 "To me, the team is more important than any individual member of the squad, and the players have to realise that and accept that my priority is to pick a side with the best possible chance of winning each match." Gerard Houllier
78 "I want to keep an English heart to the team. I believe in that. Michael Owen is that. Never think Michael is afraid of anything." Gerard Houllier
79 "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques". Bill Shankly on boardroom meetings
80 "I'm just one of the people who stands on the kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other." Bill Shankly on the fans
81 "If he isn't named Footballer of the Year, football should be stopped and the men who picked any other player should be sent to the Kremlin" Bill Shankly on Tommy Smith
82 "It was the most difficult thing in the world, when I went to tell the chairman. It was like walking to the electric chair. That's the way it felt." Bill Shankly on the leaving of Liverpool
84 "The only thing I fear is missing an open goal in front of the Kop. I would die if that were to happen. When they start singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' my eyes start to water. There have been times when I've actually been crying while I've been playing". Kevin Keegan
85 The goal looked as big as the Mersey Tunnel." Ian St John after his winning goal in the 1965 FA Cup Final against Leeds.
86 "If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be." Bill Shankly on the off-side rule
87 "Take that bandage off. And what do you mean about YOUR knee? It's Liverpool's knee!" Bill Shankly to Tommy Smith, who had a bandage on his injured knee
88 “Ladies and Gentlemen, yesterday at Wembley we might have lost the Cup but you the Liverpool people have won everything. You have won the admiration of the policemen in London and you have won the admiration of the public in London." Bill Shankly after losing the FA Cup in 1971 to Arsenal
89 "Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of red strength." Bill Shankly
90 "It is our fifth trophy in just a matter of months and that shows what can be achieved when you have a united team who have great trust in each other." Gerard Houllier after Liverpool won the Super Cup in Monaco
91 "This was a special atmosphere only Anfield can produce. This was St Etienne part two and the fans cheered every tackle and it's one of the greatest nights in this football club's history." Phil Thompson after Liverpool's 2-0 victory over Roma in the Champions League 2002
92 "I will never forget today and I want to thank all the fans who gave me such a great ovation. They were immense. I thought I would get a decent reception but that surpassed all my wildest dreams. That sort of ovation is normally reserved for players who have won European Cups for a club. It was a brilliant day and it was nice to hear the Kop's humour at its best again when they were telling me to go back to Coventry." Gary McAllister after his last game for Liverpool at Anfield
93 "Playing Roma in Rome in the European Cup final and scoring a penalty in the shoot out to help us win it. That was my very last kick for Liverpool and it doesn't really get any better than that." Graeme Souness
94 "We are the real people's club." Sammy Lee
95 "He has not changed his religion." Gerard Houllier to a reporter when asked if Nick Barmby would become a recluse following his move from Everton to Liverpool
96 "I used to hate Ian Rush when I was young, because I was a devout Evertonian in those days, and he seemed to score every time Liverpool played against us. It's strange to think he used to support Everton too when he was a kid. He was brilliant to me at Anfield always giving me good advice." Robbie Fowler
97 "I was once offered Eric Cantona at Liverpool." Graeme Souness admitting he turned down the chance to sign the Frenchman during his reign as Liverpool manager
98 "You may have found me mean and thirsty in my search for trophies, but the bad news is the man who is taking my place is hungrier than me. Fagan's the name and I don't think he'll need any help from the Artful Dodger!" Bob Paisley on Joe Fagan
99 "If you can't make decisions in life, you're a bloody menace. You'd be better becoming an MP!" Bill Shankly
100 "I just hoped that after the trials and tribulations of my early years in management, someone up high would smile on me and guide my hand. My plea was answered when we got Kenny Dalglish. What a player, what a great professional!" Bob Paisley
101 "Rafa is a magician, a master tactician and a wonderful man. He is a great man, make no mistake about that." LFC Chairman David Moores.
102 "We just want to bring more trophies to the club for these amazing fans. They are the best. We have got just the right man to do that in Rafa." LFC Chairman David Moores.
103 "Rafa has the feel of this club, he knows the history of the club and he loves the people. I tell you what, we have got a good man." LFC Chairman David Moores.
104 "Rafa has brought the European Cup back to Liverpool and there was no doubts in our minds whatsoever that he would bring success to the club." LFC Chief Executive Rick Parry.
105 "How could I leave after a night like that? It was the greatest night of my life." Steven Gerrard after winning the Champions League in Istanbul.
106 "It was reported that we'd have 20,000 fans out here but there was much more than that. They are unbelievable and I dedicate this victory to them. We were a different team in the second half but by extra time we were running on empty and I'll admit were playing for penalties at the end." Steven Gerrard after winning the Champions League in Istanbul.
107 "I wanted to show everybody that I'm still a good footballer, that I still have something to say. I think I have succeeded with that goal and that penalty. It wasn't a nice view at half time, but we wanted to get a goal for our fans as we didn't want them to be sad. I'm spellbound by it all, this is maybe the greatest moment in my career." Istanbul hero Vladimir Smicer.
108 "They have done the city proud, they performed brilliantly and I always knew they were going to win. I was proudly wearing my scarf in No 10." Prime Ministers wife and Liverpool fan Cherie Blair after seeing the Reds win the Champions League.
109 "Carra came up to me after extra time and said 'Remember Grobbelaar and the rubbery legs of 84 - and do the same. Dance, do anything, put them off'!" Istanbul hero Jerzy Dudek after his penalty saving heroics.
110 "My brother phoned me the morning after the game and asked me had I seen the match again? I said no and he said you need to see it because your save from Schevchenko was the hand of the God. I told him I didn't know how I did it." Jerzy Dudek.
111 "This is the best moment of my career. The final was one of the greatest moments for all of us. We enjoyed that very much." Istanbul hero Jerzy Dudek.
112 "We celebrated into the night and it was magnificent. We had a few drinks, well maybe a bit more than a few!" Jerzy Dudek after the epic Champions League win over AC Milan.
113 "It is one of the greatest finals of all time and the save Jerzy Dudek made from Shevchenko at the end was unbelievable. I can't believe we've won. He'll be a legend now, not just for the penalties but because of the Shevchenko saves in the game itself. They were unbelievable." Jamie Carragher on Istanbul hero Jerzy Dudek.
114 "This is the best moment in my professional career. I am a European champion, and I cannot believe it." Xabi Alonso on the feeling of becoming a Champions League winner.
115 "This is without doubt my biggest night in football. At half-time we needed to do something and decided to make some changes. The early goal helped and with the backing of our wonderful supporters we went on from there. There is no way we could have went back out and lost by four or five goals in front of them. Once we started thinking and believing we could do it, anything was possible. In extra-time I was very proud of my players." Rafael Benitez after the epic Champions League victory.
116 "As a manager you are important sometimes and you make mistakes, but the most important people are your staff and your players. Never call me the special one!" Rafael Benitez.
117 "When you see the supporters and how the club works it is like a religion to them. We will try to do our best to bring more trophies back for them." Rafael Benitez.
118 "I didn't sleep with the European Cup but it was in my room! It was just special and I just had to have the cup with me, lifting the cup as Liverpool captain was just the best moment of my life." Steven Gerrard on who he spent the night with after the Istanbul final.
119 "Managers have to be like actors at times and Rafa Benitez deserves an Oscar for his half-time performance in the dressing room during the Champions League Final. His half-time performance when all was lost in Istanbul was the most astonishing of the whole amazing night." Sir Bobby Robson saluting Rafael Benitez after Liverpool's victory in Istanbul.
120 "I went so mad that I must have had a bit of a blackout. I just crashed to the floor somewhere and I can't remember a single thing that was going on around me for a few moments. What I do remember as I was lying on the floor was starting to cramp up again!" Jamie Carragher recalls how he felt after Dudek saved the decisive penalty from Schevchenko in Istanbul.
121 "The English club proved that miracles really do exist. I've now made Liverpool my English team. They showed that football is the most beautiful sport of all. The Liverpool supporters didn't let me go to sleep the night before, there were 10 of them to every three Milan supporters. They showed their unconditional support at half-time when they were losing 3-0 and still they didn't stop singing." World Cup legend Diego Maradona who was cheering for Liverpool in Istanbul.
122 There's not one club in Europe with an anthem like You'll Never Walk Alone. There's not one club in the world so united with the fans. I sat there watching the Liverpool fans and they sent shivers down my spine. A mass of 40,000 people became one force behind their team. That's something not many teams have. For that I admire Liverpool more than anything." Dutch legend Johan Cruyff aftr Istanbul.
123 "What Rafa has done this season surpasses, without any doubt, what any other manager has done. Jose Mourinho has won the league for Chelsea in his first season and made a real impact in England. But it doesn't come even close to winning the European Cup in your first season. Now Rafa can go and tell any press conference he likes, as Jose did, that he's the true champion. Mourinho can't say that any more. So is Rafa the special one too? Well, he is to Liverpool fans." Jamie Carragher.
124 "We were sitting in the dressing room and we could clearly hear thousands of fans singing You'll Never Walk Alone. Can you imagine how that felt? We were 3-0 down in the Champions League final and all we could hear were 45,000 people letting us know they still believed in us. We knew they had endured a long journey and made so many sacrifices to be there. It was at that point we started to believe too." Luis Garcia on what inspired the amazing comeback in Istanbul.
125 "Liverpool's fans are just amazing. The best feeling I have at away games is Anfield. It is just incredible. I love it. You get goose bumps when you see their supporters sing You'll Never Walk Alone." Arsenal and France star Thierry Henry.
126 "When you have the best player in the world in your side then you know that anything is possible. I was just praying for somebody to do something special and Stevie came up trumps again. When the ball hit the net I felt like running over to him to give him a big kiss but then I decided against it! Gerrard is the best for me. He is still young, he's got everything in his game and he can do whatever he wants in football. It was just brilliant to win the final. The odds were against us at one stage but there's a great belief in this team now and we never believe we are beaten." John Arne Riise hails FA Cup hero Steven Gerrard.
127 "We've got a great team spirit - It doesn't matter how many goals we go down, we'll keep fighting till the end." Steven Gerrard.
128 "Honest to God, I'm so happy it's frightening! I'm just so chuffed - that's all I can say. Obviously since I have left, deep down I have always wanted to come back and it has been a long time but I'm glad to say I'm back now." Robbie Fowler on his return to Anfield.
129 "Ever since I started at Liverpool as a kid the fans have taken to me and any player will tell you when the supporters of your club are behind you then that helps an awful lot. I just can't thank them enough. They've given me so much support over the years and I'm grateful for that." Kop hero Robbie Fowler.
130 "He is our talisman - I mean you just can't replace him. Thank goodness everything was sorted out last year! Everything's settled down now and I know he will be with us for life. He's an unbelievable player and I wouldn't swap him for anyone. He has got everything and never ceases to amaze. He has been magnificent, different class." LFC Chairman David Moores on Steven Gerrard.
131 "I'd put Steven in the top five or six players in the world. In my opinion, I would say he was probably the best. I don't think anyone else could play for Liverpool and do more than he does." Jamie Carragher on Steven Gerrard.
Vi troner øverst... (26.07.06)
Liverpool har overtatt tronen fra Manchester United øverst på den engelske maratontabellen i fotball.
London (NTB-Reuters): Siden ligastarten i 1888 har Liverpool kapret 5927 poeng på sine 3643 kamper. Det gir et gjennomsnitt på 1,63 poeng per kamp. United står med 5337 poeng på 3287 kamper, som er 1,62 poeng i snitt.
I tillegg kan Liverpool vise til 18 mesterskap mot Uniteds 15, skriver The Times.
Bak disse på maratontabellen følger: Arsenal, Leeds, Aston Villa, Everton, Tottenham, Newcastle, Wolverhampton og Burnley mens regjerende seriemester Chelsea er nede på 14. plass.
Chelsea skulle trenge 90 poeng i hver av de neste 23 sesongene for å kunne ta igjen Liverpool.
Paul Merson... 05.05.06
Merson viser sin klasse
Tidligere Arsenal-ving og Walsall-manager Paul Merson var Sky Sports sin studiogjest i forbindelse med Arsenals bortekamp mot Manchester City i går kveld (04.05.06, red.anm). På spørsmål fra programleder Richard Keys om han ville savne Highbury nå som Arsenal flytter til nytt stadion, svarte Merson som følger:
- Selvsagt. Det er en av de siste store fotballarenaer, sammen med Anfield.
Da var Keys frempå og repliserte at kanskje Old Trafford også var verdig en plass på den listen, hvorpå Merson repliserte:
- Nei. Jeg husker jeg spilte på Anfield da jeg var ung, og The Kop var fullpakket et par timer før avspark. Atmosfæren der var fantastisk. Jeg har spilt på Old Trafford med mer enn 60 000 mennesker på tribunen, og det var som å spille i et bibliotek.
Klasse, Paul. Klasse.
Arne Bjørn har sendt inn dette... 26.04.06
Roll away the stone
By John Williams
Now there are fans who remain calm in the face of the darkest storm, like trawler skippers they stand squarely, staring intently as the rigging and their dreams freeze before their very eyes. In contrast, I tend to panic if we so much as lose the toss!
It wasn't always that way. In those epoch making years between Shankly and Dalgliesh I was so confident of Liverpool's ability that even the odd set back of conceding an early goal was a mere irritation, an unpalatable hors d'oeuvre to be followed by a lip smacking main course and the sweet dessert of victory.
Then came the doldrums of the 90's when Graeme Souness took the helm of HMS Anfield and promptly discharged most of the experienced crew before running the once feared battleship into a trough of despair, where it remained becalmed for a generation.
With so many years of disappointment behind us it is not difficult to imagine the state of my nerves as May the 25th, the date of the Champion's League Final against AC Milan drew closer. So much was riding on a victory to ensure Liverpool's survival as a major power in both the domestic league and the European arena that for me, and I daresay many a Liverpool supporter, it was the footballing equivalent of the Armada, Trafalgar and D-Day rolled into one. I was frazzled.
I was so wound up that during the first leg of the semi final against Chelsea I had decided against watching it in the pub as my nerves suffer badly from the tensions; Liverpool only have to concede a corner and I'm reaching for the valium. Instead, I alternated between prowling round the garden, smoking like a coastal steamer and staring blankly at the television, while intermittently pleading with my youngest son to check the score on the internet.
The ensuing goalless draw and the dismissal of Xabi Alonso, thanks to the machinations of the inappropriately named Eidur Gud jonsson, which meant that the brilliant Spaniard would miss the home leg at Anfield, left me with mixed emotions to say the least.
I had steadied my nerves to the extent that I could watch the home leg armed only with an ample supply of cigarettes and a bottle of Stella Artois, which paltry amount was due to my mis-reading of my diabetes medication that can, if taken with excess alcohol, lead to lactic acidosis, a condition that carries a 50 percent chance of death! The abiding memory of Liverpool's victory that still haunts me is the last second miss by the villain of the drama, Gudjonsson. Whew! Now for the final.
On the morning of May the 25th I had my first appointment ever with a diabetes specialist, who turned out to be a young man who had opted to practise medicine in Liverpool precisely because he was a fanatical supporter of the reds! He was also an extremely attentive listener who realised that I was labouring under a misapprehension concerning lactic acidosis as I was a type two diabetic and so less likely to suffer from the dreaded side effect. In short, I could have a reasonable drink whilst watching the clash of the Italian and British battle fleets.
I was so tense that I couldn't even indulge in the pleasure of dreaming about possible match scenarios any more than I could watch the pre-match build up lest I be intimidated by the replays exhibiting the goal scoring prowess of Shevchenko et al and so, as the fingers of the clock finally crawled to the appointed time I uncorked the first of my three bottles of wine, while nervously quaffing large draughts of Stella.
The last coherent remark I can remember making was 45 seconds into the game when I screamed at Djimi Traore,
"Don't give away a foul for God's sake!"
Due to the clamour of the fans he didn't hear me or perhaps he chose to willfully disregard my sage advice. As the free kick was taken my face was a drained as the beer bottles in front of me.
One nil to AC Milan!
It's only one nil I thought as I made inroads into the wine.
Two nil to Milan!
My kneeling position of prayer and the rapidly descending purple haze meant I was struggling to focus on the screen and my dreams were being tossed and blown like those of the the Armada after Drake had sent in the fire-ships, but we still had hope.
Three nil to Milan.
By then I was so anaesthetized that I couldn't feel the pain and made a slurred phone call to my dad assuring him that we would witness a miracle but of course it was the booze talking as I struggled to hold my head up high. In any case, as an agnostic I had no right to even dream of miracles.
I sat glued to my sofa unable to stir and realised that my smoking habit had driven my wife and son into the front room to watch the game on the other television. Now I am a slob at the best of times and my Tee shirts, which my wife calls 'butterflies', attract stains the way Chelsea FC attracts glory hunters. Indeed, on one memorable day I went through three counterfeit Ralph Lauren Polo shirts* and I haven't even got a horse!
I mention my slovinliness because as I sat, numbed and bewildered, praying for divine intervention not on the scale of a miracle you understand, but just for a goal or even a determined attempt at a fight back that would take the sting out of what looked like an inevitable victory as no team had ever reversed a three goal lead in the Champions's Cup final, I realised that my knees were covered in a coating of ash so that I resembled a victim of Pompeii, that other great example of explosive Italian force.
I couldn't even bring myself to resent Milan because they had been magnificent as they sailed majestically through the ragged Liverpool defences leaving despair in their imperious wake. I was on the verge of striking the red ensign and hoisting the white flag. However, Admiral Benitez was reviewing his strategy and had decided to employ the pocket battleship Hamman in an attempt to disrupt the Italian line of supply.
The second bottle, sorry, second half, began and Liverpool withstood several early assaults on their goal so I was slightly calmer, until, before my heavy lidded eyes, Steven Gerrard's header looped into the Milan net!
3-1!
Reeling with delight and alcohol I stumbled toward the front room to embrace my son, but I fell over and narrowly missed braining myself on the hall radiator before staggering into the parlour where I beheld my wife and son cheering madly as Vladimir Smicer scored Liverpool's second goal! I had missed it!
I stumbled back to my smoking den just in time to catch the replay!
3-2!
Through a blur of booze I saw Xabi Alonso almost miss a penalty before savagely smashing in the rebound, (I have it on good authority that he saw Eigur Gudjonssen's grinning face miraculously appear on the ball just before he booted it into the net!).
3-3!
The battle for supremacy ebbed and flowed and then Jerzy Dudek did a passable imitation of Gordon Banks and we were taken to penalties. By the time Jerzy had saved from Shevchenko, thereby ensuring that Liverpool FC were champions again, I was talking fluent Spanish, and wondering why the ITV anthem for the Champion's League was dedicated to what sounded like 'Lasagne', while waving deliriously, from the supine position on the floor.
I vaguely remember phoning my dad and ludicrously claiming that I had foreseen it all. Like hell I had! I was led to bed by my sober family where I spent the strangest night life of my life, hovering between ecstasy and the whirlypits.
The next day, after I had sufficiently recovered to be able to distinguish the white telephone from the white walls I phoned my son who was at university and apologised for not being able to phone him on the previous evening. He said it was okay and we briefly discussed the miracle of old Constantinople as he had to leave for his lectures.
I spent the rest of day glued to Sky Sports News, a package that came with my Telewest set top box, and relished the dismay and anguish that the ex-Everton centre forward and commentator, Andy Gray, will endure for the rest of his life as the cruel editors of Sky constantly replayed Milan's third goal, which was accompanied into eternity by Gray's brutal assertion,
"That's game over!"
No Andy, it was just the beginning of your nightmare!
That night when my wife returned from work I mentioned that I had got through to her student son and made up for not phoning him the night before.
She looked at me in amazement and, laughing, exclaimed,
"You were talking to him from Eleven Thirty until midnight! Going on about whether it was a moral victory or a victory of morale!"
Oh what a night!
*In actual fact they were genuine Ralph Lauren's but I am feeling magnanimous and so I am pandering to those sad supporters of Chelsea and Manchester United who can only come to terms with the amazing history of Liverpool FC by making snide remarks to the effect that we Liverpudlians are, to a man, paupers or thieves. This in spite of the fact that they all covet Steven Gerrard and fear Jamie Carragher, Liverpool born multi millioniares both, whose only attempt at larceny resulted in their stealing millions of hearts worldwide on that evening in Istanbul when we witnessed the latest and probably greatest tale from the Arabian nights!
YNWA
05/06/05
08/07/05
My stepfather, who took me to the old Kemlyn Road stand in 1960, died yesterday. I think he'd been hanging on to see the Reds make the European cup their own.
Thomas L. Bergheim sendte oss dette, kos dere med lesinga...
YOU ARE LIVERPOOL, GET OUT THERE AND DO IT
Daily Mirror 09 November 2005
RAFAEL BENITEZ has finally revealed the chaos and confusion from which he
conjured Liverpool's greatest triumph out of impending disaster.
Giving the first in-depth account of what really happened in the dressing
room as his side faced up to the mountain they had to climb from a 3-0
half-time Champions League Final deficit against AC Milan, Benitez admitted
he did not know if he could find the words to bring his team back from the
dead.
The Liverpool manager also confessed that at one stage he was sending out a
10-man team for the second half in Istanbul as his plans verged on bedlam.
While his players were reeling, Benitez strode from the dug-out and down the
tunnel at Attaturk Stadium to find a Liverpool dressing room in a state of
shock and knowing he had a brief window of opportunity to get across the
most important message of his career.
"I walked into the dressing room rehearsing what I was going to say to them
but also how I was going to say it," he said. "It's really difficult to come
up with all the things you want to say in a foreign language. I was trying
to find the right English words.
"We talked about what we were going to change. It's tough enough motivating
a team which is losing 3-0 in Spanish. In English, it is much, much tougher.
"But the words came more easily than I could ever have hoped. The important
aspect was to lift their spirits.
"I started with a motivational speech to get them fired up. I demanded they
start working again and emphasised there were 45 minutes left and we had to
come off the pitch proud of ourselves because we'd done everything in our
power.
"So I reminded them it had been a hard battle to reach such a massive game
and that we owed something important to all the Liverpool people. I said if
we scored we would totally change the course of the game. I emphasised it
was the most important challenge.
"I said: 'Don't let your heads drop. We're Liverpool. You're playing for
Liverpool. Don't forget that. You have to hold your heads high for the
supporters. You have to do it for them.
'You can't call yourselves Liverpool players if you have your heads down. If
we create a few chances we have the possibility of getting back into this.
Believe you can do it and you will. Give yourself the chance to be heroes'."
It was a chance that was gloriously, unforgettably taken and Benitez broke
open the secrets of his finest moment in A Season On The Brink, a new
authorised account of his first term at Anfield, by distinguished Spanish
journalist Guillem Balague.
But the Liverpool chief told how even after he had given the exhortation
that changed everything, his plans were enmeshed in a few minutes of sheer
chaos.
Benitez wanted to introduce Didi Hamann and told Djimi Traore he was coming
off - but then learned Steve Finnan's injury was too bad for him to
continue.
Benitez added: "I started to write the new formation on the board. I told
Traore to get changed and that Hamann was coming on for him. The idea was
for Hamann to make Kaka's life much tougher.
"I took Didi up to the whiteboard so he understood what I wanted and
explained the tactical changes to the rest of the side. Then I was told
Finnan was injured.
"Finnan was unhappy. He believed he could keep going. But I reckoned if he
told me midway through the second half I'd have to make a change beyond my
control.
"It was a total mess for a while. I was reckoning on Djibril Cisse on the
right but someone pointed out I'd have no more substitutions.
"So I took Cisse out but also deleted Luis Garcia from the board because I
wanted to move him. Now I only had 10 players in the team. The system was
changed several times on the board and it created havoc.
"The idea was to play 3-4-2-1 with John Arne Riise tucked in. But with the
realisation Finnan wasn't fit to stay on, the logical thing was to tell
Traore he wasn't being taken off. By this time he had his boots off and was
on his way to the shower."
Somehow, despite the flurry of thoughts and the situation, the seeds of
glory were being sown.
Benitez added: "In the first half we weren't threatening around their box.
We wanted to change the pattern by using two players in the hole between
midfield and Milan Baros.
"The task was to produce terrific movement and also put massive pressure on
Milan building out of defence through Pirlo. We felt we could slam the
brakes on the damaging work which Gatuso, Seedorf and most of all Kaka were
doing.
"Using three centre-halves would make us more secure by staying tight on the
runs of their strikers. You can try anything tactically if you've worked
hard on such ideas in training. We had."
In that instant, a voice cried out, reminding the players of the second half
comeback against Greek side Olympiakos that had brought the Reds back from
the brink in their final group game.
Outside, the stunned Liverpool fans were singing the roof off the stadium,
not even dreaming of what would follow in front of their disbelieving eyes.
Benitez said: "Normally it's Xabi or Carra or Gerrard who shouts 'Come on
boys' when it's needed. In the first few minutes there wasn't any of that.
"But in the last couple of minutes before going back out, the animation and
noise hit a normal level.
"We needed to attack and they let us. We scored and started to look
confident all over the pitch. When a team loses control of a match, it can
take 15 minutes to get it back. While they are recharging their batteries,
anything can happen.
"I didn't hear the fans singing You'll Never Walk Alone from the dressing
room. On the way out I did hear it but I was lost in my thoughts."
The thoughts had changed everything. What followed is now legendary.
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